Please Don't Shoot Me: New R.I.P. Ammunition

January 31, 2014


This is G2 Research's new R.I.P. Ammunition, a bullet that releases eight pieces of shrapnel upon entering its target. For the record, I would not like to be shot with it. Cupid's arrow? Absolutely. I'm lonely, hit me already you fat baby.

After separation the tines travel in a semi-circle, maximizing the chance that they strike something vital.

And while the separated sharp tines go in all directions, the base of the bullet continues to penetrate in a straight line, achieving a very respectable 14- to 17- inch penetration range.

"This bullet is designed to take out all your vital organs...inferior bullets won't be a problem anymore," [G2 President Cliff] Brown said. The company president stressed prevention of law enforcement injuries was a primary focus for the round designers.

"The R.I.P. will not defeat level 3A body armor, that was one of our main goals when designing this bullet," Brown said.

Any gun and ammo experts want to weigh in on this? I don't trust myself to own a gun. Plus there's the whole felony thing. I ain't going back to prison. Sure I miss my boyfriend, but with good behavior he could be out before my 80th birthday. "There's no way you're living past 40." Ahahahhahahha, even 35 sounds like a stretch.

Hit the jump for two videos, the first an explanation of the new ammo, the second a demonstration of the bullets destroying the hell out of things.

Thanks to BC2002, ranker and Travis, who can all shoot laser beams out of their eyes and cut attackers in half. Also effective.

  • EarlyMon


    See the latest independent tests.

  • David Gabel

    definitely interezsting. Though I'll stil with my AR15 set up for .308 rounds and a shotgun with 00Buck and rifled slug rounds for home defense since those are already serving as hunting rifles.

  • DrZanz

    For starters I generally don't give a shit, this doesn't affect me.
    I'm just thinking though, who actually wants to kill someone in self defense? I mean WANTS to kill someone? Why isn't a normal bullet good enough for self defense?
    Just seems this is more of an offensive modification than a defensive one, defense being the basis of the law which allows you to carry firearms and all.

  • Kaizer Chief

    What the bleeding hearts on here don't seem to realise (evidently because they've never lived in among the most violent and evil elements of society), is that some people really do deserve to be killed. It is truly a sad indictment of the state of society that we're continuously developing more brutal and effective weapons. But if a situation arises where violence is the only outcome (i.e. you're either going to be a victim of it, or you're going to be forced to use it against your assailant), then the person using superior violence wins. Simple.

  • wastedkitten

    It's not so back and white. Proficiency with a throwing knife will most likely win against someone who is incompetent with a gun.

  • TulsaBassist

    And proficiency with a gun will win against someone proficient with a throwing knife. Myth busters already did that one.

  • PaulG

    Most people don't remember but back in the 90s a round called the 'Black Talon' was briefly produced by Winchester which operated on the same basic premise (shredding as opposed to fragmenting). It produced such a negative response that Winchester eventually ceased production in 1993 especially after it's association with the Long Island Railroad mass shooting.

    I questioned their use since standard JHPs can do more than enough damage for self defense and, at least in my opinion, everything else is overkill (no pun intended).

    And, incidentally, I am pro-gun.

  • EarlyMon

    Black Talons did NOT shred or fragment. That's a modern myth. The press at the time did test after test and story after story making that perfectly clear. As does the YouTube of an independent test showing what they do in ballistic gel - not fragment. They did NOT operate on the same priciple as the RIP. They were simply a superior JHP.

    Here's a YouTube of a Black Talon in 20% ballistic gel (NATO standard, not 10% FBI) showing it NOT shredding or fragmenting -

    As for the Black Talon characteristerics you're describing associated with Colin Ferguson at the Long Island Railroad - you're repeaing what Time Magazine had to say - not reality. See also -

  • HackTheGibson

    Winchester pulled it after the term "cop killer" was latched onto it after a cop was murdered with them. Supposedly the black part was to let it be armor piercing which is completely not true. The black part was just teflon tips that make feeding in autos easier. They changed the color and name and you can still find this round on the market. All PR and nothing to do with facts.

  • EarlyMon

    Agree completely except for the fact that the black part never contained teflon of any type. I have several boxes of the original stuff - no teflon.

    They came along about the same time as the Lethal Weapon 3 movie
    featuring armor piercing rounds with teflon tips - "cop killers" as the movie stars Gibson and Glover
    called them.

  • This_Update_Sucks

    there's no fucking way those full autos are cycling that jam master of a round. Seems better suited for a shotgun.

  • ShartInYourJacuzzi

    You know what was wrong with previous bullets shot from guns? They just didn't do enough bodily harm. How did we get by as a society?

  • FearlessFarris

    You clearly don't know anything about firearms or ballistics, so your comment isn't worth responding to... except I just did.

    See what I did there? Now who has a sense of humor?

    Anyway, I hope your long life is full of peace and tranquility, because you're obviously very ill-prepared to deal with much else.

  • ShartInYourJacuzzi

    "Now who has a sense of humor?"

    Still not you.

  • JJtoob

    Ok, serioulsy 1. The narrator sounds like a mellow Rex Kwon Do guy, and 2. Lead free means at least you won't die of lead poisoning lol.

  • Mike Harper

    This stuff screams gimmick. When you are basing your advertising on ridiculous names, full auto hand guns, and shoddy ballistics it's usually because they are compensating for something. Plus $45 for a box of 20!? It's a ripoff too. The three key factors of a good defensive ammo is penetration, weight retention, and expansion. This seems to fail most of that making it nothing more than a gimmick round. I can't wait to see 3rd party ballistics tests.

  • FearlessFarris

    Agreed, but the gun-owning public loves an exciting novelty as much as the gadget-owning public (and sometimes those groups overlap). I'll definitely hand it to these guys for effective marketing.

    I'm with you for holding out for independent ballistic reports before shelling out the $$ for this ammo.

  • Imadethisnameup

    uhmmmm, I'll stick with Hornady Critical duty.

    EDIT- okay, let's get a few things straight, because this topic is hugely controversial in the USA. Ammunition, not guns, dictates lethality. The most "powerful" rifle is only the most powerful because of it's ammunition, the same goes with ANY OTHER FIREARM. And with the knowledge that firearm lethality is only possible due to ammunition you must now bear in mind, a few facts;

    Handgun rounds, are hole pokers. They are not designed to explode in a human body, they were never meant to. Their job is punch a hole into a human body in order to cause trauma and BLEEDING, and with a little luck; stop in the human body to stop collateral damage (Be it another person, a wall, your neighbor.) And with more luck, you will hit a vital organ, with even more luck, you'll hit their brain, spinal cord or heart.

    The idea that we should create "EXPLODISION MICHALE BAY AMMUNITION" is beyond fucking retarded, as none of these projectiles will EVER gain enough velocity to make use of the mass of the projectile being delivered in the effort to fragment. That shraptnel would stop after less than 5 mm in a real human body, which contains a fuck all huge amount of bone, sinew, tendons and cartilage.

    Wanna impress me? Produce a barrel, and a 9mm over pressure cartridge that can deliver hydrostatic shock.
    Then I'll buy the fucking shit out of them.

    Also, hollow points were created to expand in a wound cavity in order to increase the delivery of force, widen the wound channel to cause additional trauma and to STOP in the target. As someone mentioned above, you want a projectile that is fast, accurate and expands whilst retaining its weight after impact.
    This bullet is counter productive to every single thing that makes a good projectile.

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