Apr 4 2011Super Mario Magic: Beating Four Mario Games At Once With A Single Controller's Input

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This is a video of a guy allegedly beating four Mario games at once (1, 2, 2 Japan aka The Lost Levels and 3) using a single controller input in an 11-minute tool-assisted speed run. I'm not gonna lie, just watching it made my head 'esplode. Ears too. I actually took the time to read some of the comments on Youtube and people were (unsurprisingly) calling it fake on account of some of the jumps looking mistimed, so who knows. Only God and the guy who made the video, that's who. Personally, I'd like to believe it's real. Of course I'd also like to believe the Tooth Fairy's real because I just chiseled out a couple molars in the back that I don't really use. What do you think adult teeth are worth anyways? "The tooth fairy is your parents." WHAT IN THE -- so.like a buck apiece?

UPDATE, per commenter Otto: It's not fake, it's a TAS. TAS = Tool Assisted Speedrun. Basically, instead of playing the game, the person puts the button presses in with frame level timing, so that the game plays itself. By adjusting the timing of the presses, you can sometimes achieve strange effects by doing things that are impossible with an actual controller. So what's happening here is that the guy made a set of presses that worked on all four games simultaneously. He exploits the timing a bunch so that some jumps needed for one guy happen when the other guy is in the air or between levels or whatever. The moving backwards on one while forwards on another can be achieved in some games by doing things like pressing both left and right at the same time, which is impossible to do with a controller, but totally doable if you're controlling what button is being pressed at the frame timing level. So no, it's not fake, but it is using tricks that you can't actually do with a real controller.

Hit the jump for more than ten-minutes of WTFery (plus game-endings!)

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Thanks to Matt, who claims he once beat Altered Beast, Ecco the Dolphin and Sonics 1 and 2 at the same time with a single controller. Controller, or magic wand? STOP WASTING SPELLS!

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I dunno. There are parts where one character (Luigi, for example, in the first level of Mario 2) stops moving right, while the rest of them all keep going. Unless he has multiple d-pads on this "one input" of his, I don't see how this could be legit.

Not saying "fake"... but I'm also not sold, either.

If the same imput is controlling all four games at once then are the actions so far apart? I'd accept a little bit of delay but the intervals between jumps are way to far apart for me to believe this

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Can't watch the video til i get home but I have a few questions:
Is the guy asian?
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How is it possible to control 4 games at once with one controller?


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I have to agree with 3 and 4 on that one, shenanigans all around.

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I too cry fake. I would believe that he beat the game using the same keystrokes everytime, but no all the games at the same time. some of the delays are just too long. It is still cool to think about though if each game could be defeated using the same keystrokes.

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Hmmmmmm.. I call fake. But that said, really good fakery. Like others have said, the delays are a bit too long, and there are times where one Mario is moving and others are standing completely still (at one point in Mario 3 he goes backwards while at the same time in Mario 1 and LL Mario is just standing there). Other times, one Mario is making what's clearly a long jump (meaning a longer button-hold) and others are making short, quick jumps. Just can't buy it.

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at :56 he hits a piranha plant, he has some cheats going on

Bullshit! Bullshit! Bullshit! TOTAL BULLSHIT! There is no fucking WAY! Fuck this lying asshole! But if it turns out to be legit, good job bud. Awesome!

Spent the 11minutes watching, I'd say it's hoax since not all of the characters moved allways simoultanously.

It's not fake, it's a TAS.

TAS = Tool Assisted Speedrun. Basically, instead of playing the game, the person puts the button presses in with frame level timing, so that the game plays itself. By adjusting the timing of the presses, you can sometimes achieve strange effects by doing things that are impossible with an actual controller.

So what's happening here is that the guy made a set of presses that worked on all four games simultaneously. He exploits the timing a bunch so that some jumps needed for one guy happen when the other guy is in the air or between levels or whatever. The moving backwards on one while forwards on another can be achieved in some games by doing things like pressing both left and right at the same time, which is impossible to do with a controller, but totally doable if you're controlling what button is being pressed at the frame timing level.

So no, it's not fake, but it is using tricks that you can't actually do with a real controller.

@16,
You can press both left and right on a real controller if you push hard enough, or cut the center of the controller. It is only the shape of the plastic that prevents L+R from getting registered.

@3 Only Mario 3 is moving right at that point, and that is because his momentum is conserved as long as he keeps jumping.

@Anyone claiming it's legit cause it's TAS or whatever... That's not the point. Although the input is similar, it's not the exact same throughout. It doesn't take a genius to see this.

he also has no death cheats on, watch at 1:00 in the top right he runs right through a pirahna plant, and he does the same at :56 on bottom right as someone else already posted.

The bottom right screen; Mario hits a piranha plant at about 00:54

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Shenanigans! at 9:40 they are moving in different directions(just one of the times i saw this happen)

FAKE!

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I would say this is fake. It wouldn't be hard to test. I mow'd this game the other day and I got mow points in under mow mow, so I mow it's probably mow real.

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Not the same input...

It's OBVIOUS that the only real question is how much female company this guy gave up... I'm guessing zero (not withstanding the fact that he probably calls his right hand Shirley)

As DK ( @17 ) said before, it's a TAS.. and weird things happen in TAS. If you want to see how weird things can get, look for "Super Mario 64 Cleared in 5 Minutes".

Basically, you could imagine the game as being played in super slo-mo, and the whole thing is being recorded, and every instant they can check if they made a mistake and undo and retry.

Also, for those of you claiming piranha plants and such: SMB (and SMB 2J) were very buggy... you can stomp enemies with your nose as long as you're falling down, you can sometimes do walljumps, and most interestingly, piranha plants aren't really as big as they look. Only the very center can kill you.

Some bugs here:
http://www.themushroomkingdom.net/bugs/smb

So imagine having the knowledge of all these kinds of bugs + super slo-mo + going back in time to correct mistakes.

It's probably not fake.

Bullshit TAS is bullshit.

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http://www.crunchyroll.com/the-world-god-only-knows/episode-12-more-than-a-god-less-than-a-human-560164

tool assisted!

You can see the TAS submission here: http://tasvideos.org/3104S.html
Yup, he uses cheats like "no death". I think you can download the input file and run it yourself against the emulator. It's real.

Tasr, not impressed at all, it's no better than cheating, no matter what reasoning you have to use it.

@32: That's not him saying its a cheat, its him saying that he never dies. As far as I can tell, its legit. There are a whole lot of button tricks with these old games and abuse of a few in game elements that make this possible. The delay is because of the games themselves, a couple lag harder than others, and also, their are recovery frames from holding certain buttons that are possible only in some games and not others.

Basically, you've all fallen for the mob mentality of comment three.

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If I help anyone, they"re tool assisted.

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It's not fake... however, it wasn't done in real-time. Look up what a tool-assisted run is. It's not trying to be the same category of run as a console speedrun. On TASVideos, the runner actually submitted the movie file of button presses... you can check yourself that this file is legitimate.

As for why the games don't all move right at the same time, there are good reasons for this. 1) Sometimes, several of the games are lagging and the others aren't. The lagging games won't respond to input during lag frames. 2) These games have differing behavior when left and right are pressed at the same time (not possible on a real controller). The author exploits the differing behaviors.

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FAKE!!!!
This is a complete photoshop job. You can tell its a fake because the shadows are all wrong.

yep it is not fake, the video was not even made from the author of the input.
It is legit and tested from other people (play back the input with a clean game, if it does sync it is legit)
You can even do that yourself, the input is free to take, get an emulator and start 'playing'.
However the shadows really are wrong, nintendo must have photoshoped, never noticed.


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Wow, GW. that update may have made this your most informative article to date!

Not buying this one input thing. First would be impossible to keep track of all four AND do that good in all of them. Second. Watch from 4:00. ..At 4:03 Mario 3(top left) keeps moving and all other three characters stop completely in the open, not just stuck in a corner.

This is not fake. Each game's engine is significantly different, and each game takes about a different amount of time to respond to extremely quick directional changes. There's a lot of clever manipulation involved. Once this is up on TASvideos, you can download the single input file and play it back on all four games and see for yourself that this is real.

If you like this, you might want to check out the Mega Man ones as well; there is a Mega Man X1-X2 dual run out there and there is one of Mega Men 3-6.

Impressive!

its not really super mario if the guy who's playing it uses a bunch of mods and does not even use a proper controller?? it all just seems a bit retarded to be honest

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